It is also important to mention upfront that "..GOD IS NO RESPECTER OF PERSONS, but in every nation he that feareth Him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with Him” (Acts 10:34-35). I do respect both Pastor Kim and Pastor Christine, and I don’t have any personal issues with them.
First, I must admit that I was inadvertently the one used by Satan to delay posting of this article, and the first to persecute Brother Glenn and his family for sharing the shocking visions and daring to mention both Pastor Kim and Sister Christine by name. Until this week, my wife and I were keen followers of Pastor Kim, devoured all his books, attended 2 of his revivals (my wife attended the revival at Pastor Christine's Church in May 2013 this year), and even contributed some funds towards publishing the mysterious sixth book. Simply put, we swallowed his teachings: hook, line and sinker; even when we were not at peace about some of the things he said and the jokes he made. We also know Sister Christine, and I have even received a word from "Jesus" through her -- a very uplifting and encouraging word, I must admit! Until this article was published, my wife and I have been praying the way Pastor Kim taught us -- doing holy dance, praying for long periods on our knees with our hands lifted up, drilling loudly in tongues, and shouting and screaming "Holy Fire!" etc. All this in order for our prayers to be answered, to cast out any demons, and hopefully get our spiritual eyes open so we can see Jesus. My wife and I have also worked with Brother Glenn. So we are in a unique position to share some insights.
Before the article was published, I tried to use my closeness with Brother Glenn to stop him from posting it until he first contacts the persons mentioned and get a "second confirmation" from The Lord. You see, my wife and I both love both Pastor Christine and Pastor Kim, and we were skeptical that this vision was actually the Lord speaking. Like some of you here, I even went as far as doubting the vision was from the Lord Himself. This was a BIG MISTAKE on my part, as you will soon see!!
The Lord has warned us in His Word that in the last days there will be many false prophets:
For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works"(2 Corinthians 11:13-15).
For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect (Matthew 24:24).
Due to my putting pressure on Brother Glenn, the article was delayed by a day (usually the articles are posted by Tuesday mornings), and I was expecting the Lord to side with me -- that is, not mention the names before giving them a chance to respond. Lo and behold, the Lord in His righteous indignation and judgment exposed in another vision that there were big black demons in me, Pastor Kim and Sister Christine! Whether these demons were imparted in me at the revivals I do not know, but the Lord has since then heard my cry and this is one of the reasons I'm sharing this with you. The Lord was angry and said in a loud voice, "THEY [Pastor Kim and Sister Christine] ARE SPREADING FALSE NEWS, THEY ARE SPREADING FALSE NEWS AND NOT GOOD NEWS, AND THEY TOO WILL NOT GO UNPUNISHED."
The Lord then commanded that Brother Glenn must mention their names and he must not be afraid or discouraged even though he will face persecution. The Lord also mentioned the spirit that was working in me and influencing me to defend Pastor Kim and Sister Christine - "offending, hurtful and demanding spirit." I (yes, me) was thus the first to persecute Brother Glenn and His family, and The Lord promised to punish my wife and I for defending the two aforementioned pastors which is pretty much calling Him false when He is the True and Faithful Witness (Psalm 33:4; Revelation 3:14).
We have been crying out to Him ever since to forgive us and not to punish us, as Habakkuk 3:2 says "O Lord, I have heard Your speech and was afraid; O Lord, revive Your work in the midst of the years! In the midst of the years make it known; In wrath remember mercy." And as Isaiah 54:8 says, "With a little wrath I hid My face from you for a moment; But with everlasting kindness I will have mercy on you," Says the Lord, your Redeemer."
So, those of you here just defending these pastors from your flesh and not standing on God's Word, beware. "If anyone has ears to hear, let him hear? "(Mark 4:23; Mark 7:16). Brother Glenn wrote the article in response to the many questions some of you have asked concerning some controversial subjects such as keeping the Sabbath on Sunday, etc. The Lord chose to reveal more through the vision, and Brother Glenn is simply obeying and being bold by sharing what The Lord has commanded him to share. So this is not a personal attack against Pastor Kim or Pastor Christine, and I strongly discourage against personal attacks and admonish you to exude the fruit of the spirit: love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control, righteousness, and truth (Galatians 5:22-23; Ephesians 5:9).
The Lord wants us to repent and turn from our wicked ways: "Do you think this, O man, you who judge those practicing such things, and doing the same, that you will escape the judgment of God? Or do you despise the riches of His goodness, forbearance, and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance? But in accordance with your hardness and your impenitent heart you are treasuring up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, 6 who 'will render to each one according to his deeds'" (Romans 2:3-6).
Brother and Sisters, God is a very merciful, gracious, kind, loving and compassionate God (Exodus 34:6, John 3:16). But also, "Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God's WRATH comes on those who are disobedient" (Ephesians 5:6).
The Bible clearly warns us saying "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables" (2 Timothy 4:3-4). The Biblical way to test such false teachings is not to shout "Holy Fire!" but through the Word of God as the Prophet Isaiah says in Isaiah 8:20 "To the law [God's Word, for Christ is the fulfillment of the Law] and to the testimony [of the Biblical prophets / apostles]! If they do not speak according to this word [the Word of God; the Bible], it is because there is no light in them." So let God's Word be THE STANDARD, and not simply man's teachings.
My admonition to you, brothers and sisters, is that if any teachings contradicts the Bible or does not line up with the Word of God, you are better off setting that teaching aside and sticking to God's Word, just like the Bereans, who "were more fair-minded than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness, and SEARCHED THE SCRIPTURES DAILY to find out whether these things were so" (Acts 17:11).
The Prophet Jeremiah warns us against putting our trust (confidence/belief/credence/faith/acceptance/hope/reliance/conviction/dependence) in man, and he admonishes us in saying:
Thus says the Lord: CURSED IS THE MAN WHO TRUSTS IN MAN
AND MAKES FLESH HIS STRENGTH, Whose heart departs from the Lord. For he shall be like a shrub in the desert, And shall not see when good comes, But shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, In a salt land which is not inhabited.
BLESSED IS THE MAN WHO TRUSTS IN THE LORD, AND WHOSE HOPE IS THE LORD. For he shall be like a tree planted by the waters, Which spreads out its roots by the river, And will not fear when heat comes;
But its leaf will be green, And will not be anxious in the year of drought, Nor will cease from yielding fruit. The heart is deceitful above all things, And desperately wicked; Who can know it? I, the Lord, search the heart, I test the mind, Even to give every man according to his ways, According to the fruit of his doings (Jeremiah 17:5-10).
These are some insights we received from the Holy Spirit about some of this false teaching.
In conclusion, Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God and keep His commandments, For this is man’s all. FOR GOD WILL BRING EVERY WORK INTO JUDGMENT, INCLUDING EVERY SECRET THING, WHETHER GOOD OR EVIL (Ecclesiastes 12:13-14).
May the Lord Sanctify you by His truth; His WORD (John 17:17) and may He sanctify and cleanse you with the washing of water by the WORD, that He might present [you] to Himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that [you] should be holy and without blemish (Ephesians 5:26-27).
Response to Sister Christine
In response to the above, Pastor Christine wrote:
"And the man who posted it and has commented on pastor Kim’s site, not too long ago I fought for him as He desired a word from the King. I cried before my King, Jesus -the Alpha and Omega – who gave beautiful words to him as he himself testified and now look how he pays back the Lord! The Lord warned him to not post it but he also got deceived."
Thanks, Pastor Christine for the beautiful words you prayed for me, which indeed reaffirmed what the Lord says in Philippians 4:19 -"And my God shall supply all your need according to His riches in glory by Christ Jesus."; the second part of Hebrews 13:5 -"For He Himself has said, “I will never leave you nor forsake you.", and Psalm 139:14 - "I am fearfully and wonderfully made" and James 1:5 - "If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him." The Lord bless you and reward you for your intercession.
My posting the message was not about payback. I was only being obedient to The Lord, and The Lord did not warn me not to post – He rebuked me for not wanting to post it as He had commanded. As a matter of fact, as I mentioned previously, I am the one who fought for the article not to be posted the day it was supposed to be posted. I pleaded with Brother Glenn to "follow the protocol" and warn Pastor Kim and Sister Christine first so they can have a chance to respond. Brother Glenn kindly agreed, even though the Lord had permitted him to reveal the names. So we took the matter to the Lord in prayer again and the same night the Lord gave me a STINGING rebuke, in addition to exposing that there were demons in Pastor Christine, Pastor Kim, and me (that caused me to defend the two pastors, in the process disobeying the Lord Jesus Christ). The Lord then commanded again that the names must be revealed. And so, having been heavily humbled and found guilty, I chose to obey The Lord's command. I have since then been pleading with the Lord for mercy, forgiveness and cleansing.
Brother and sisters, this is a warning to you all. I tried to defend the pastors but the Lord warned me that He would punish me severely for standing in the way of His command. You too will be punished if you choose to follow man and to fear man, rather than fearing God! BE WARNED! Just because the Lord exposed that there were demons in us doesn't mean that the rest of you are clean! The Lord in His grace and mercy exposed me, and regardless of what I think or feel, I have to fear God and surrender to Him in humble obedience. This is the path that I chose to take, instead of being defensive.
Many of you probably only read or hear about the gentle side of the Lord - how much He loves you, how precious you are, how prosperous He wants you to be, or lately - how he wants you to make vows to him (please help me find Scripture reference), etc. We all love hearing positive messages, but we are warned in 2 Timothy 4:3: "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears". The Lord is also a righteous Judge who hates sin! The rebuke from the Lord resonated in my spirit, and instead of being defensive, I chose to humble myself before the Lord and ask for His grace and mercy, as well as seek deliverance.
Psalm 89:7 says that "God is greatly to be feared in the assembly of the saints, and to be held in reverence by all those around Him" and Proverbs 29:25 says "The fear of man brings a snare, But whoever trusts in the Lord shall be safe."
The words I received through Pastor Christine were encouraging, but they did not convict me of sin or lead me to repentance. I tried to defend Pastor Christine and Pastor Kim before the article was posted, but was rightfully rebuked by the Lord and warned, and because "God is not a respecter of persons" (Acts 10:34), He commanded that the names be revealed (1 Timothy 5:20). This is not simply a case of Brother Glenn or I not following protocol, but it's about being obedient to the Lord's command. The Lord rebuked Peter (Matthew 16:23), and Paul rebuked Peter as well (Galatians 2:11-21).
The Lord chose to expose us (me included) as He did, and there's no joy or glory for me to share that the Lord revealed demons in me in me that were influencing me to defend the pastors. We all have sinned and fallen short of God's glory (Romans 3:23). We may defend ourselves in the public domain, but the Lord knows the secrets of our hearts, and He "will bring every work into judgment, Including every secret thing, Whether good or evil" (Ecclesiastes 12:14). I bless the Lord Jesus Christ that He judged me now than later, because now I have a chance to repent and walk in obedience and holiness, so that I may be found worthy to be caught up with Him and attend the Marriage Supper of the Lamb, as His Holy Bride (Revelation 19:6-9).
So we may boldly say: “The Lord is my helper; I will not fear. What can man do to me?” (Hebrews 13:6)
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell (Matthew 10:28).
A faithful witness does not lie, But a false witness will utter lies (Proverbs 14:5 ).
I hope this clarification helps.
Warnings Worth Noting
Be wary of “extra-Biblical” revelations that do not line up with the Word of God! God’s Word should be the authoritative source.
“To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this Word, it is because there is no light in them” (Isaiah 8:20).
“[Jesus] was clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God” (Revelation 19:13).
“I will worship toward Your holy temple, and praise Your name for Your lovingkindness and Your truth; for You have magnified Your word above all Your name (Psalm 138:2).
“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness’ (Matthew 7:21-23)!
Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ. Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you. Such a person also goes into great detail about what they have seen; they are puffed up with idle notions by their unspiritual mind. They have lost connection with the head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow (Colossians 2:16-19).
Remind them of these things, charging them before the Lord not to strive about words to no profit, to the ruin of the hearers. Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 16 But shun profane and idle babblings, for they will increase to more ungodliness. And their message will spread like cancer…” (2 Timothy 2: 14-17).
Finally, I have learnt my lesson, and going forward I have chosen to fear the Lord, trust in Him, and build my relationship with Him by dwelling in His Word, rather than running after signs and wonders. I thank the Lord Jesus for delivering me from false teachings, and for showing me the seriousness of my sin.
If you have been chasing after signs and wonders, or spending more time reading testimonies, dreams and visions, I strongly encourage to repent and turn back to God, and heed the words of Proverbs 28:13-14 - Whoever conceals their sins does not prosper, but the one who confesses and renounces them finds mercy. Blessed is the one who always trembles before God, but whoever hardens their heart falls into trouble.
In God's Mercy,
Brother A and Sister B.
UPDATE: After Brother A and Sister B repented from the false teachings, they thanked the Lord and He gave them an answer -- see Vision of Three Realms, given to Charis November 3, 2013. Hallelujah!
Brother Glenn’s Response to Pastor Christine's E-Mail
Hello My Dear Brethren:
Kindly find a conversation Pastor Christine and I had regarding the things she accused us and the things she denied. Please judge for yourself and seek the truth from the Lord Jesus Christ Himself. This is just my version, the Lord Himself will answer her in POWER!
This is the conversation pastor Christine and I had. Remember I copied you and you rebuked me in return for saying she was dishonest. I was right because she said she did not say I must ask a word from the Lord but she said I should confirm the person in the vision if it was her. I only poured love onto this sister and never did I called her names. She volunteered to help our ministry now she is talking about it. I am truly hurt by her false hood. It is therefore the Lord Himself who will address her. As her brother, I have no malice in my heart for her but just love. May the peace of our Lord Jesus Christ rest upon her and may this God of Eternal Truth reveal the truth to everyone who read our testimonies. She removed our link from her website soon after I send her this email. She offered to place our link there as we did with hers. We only removed her link on Wednesday (16/10/2013) as a caution to our readers against the false teachings they proclaim. She has hit out maliciously and with lies. The Lord will reveal the whole truth about her for everybody to know that we only obeyed the Lord to warn the brethren against her false teachings with are riddled with lies.
As you may see, the Lord revealed this vision 3 days after she send us this email. Did I call her names according to our conversation below? Did she acknowledged and humbled herself before the Lord for the warning? Instead she attacked me even as she has done now. This is exactly what the current vision predicted. She is the one no calling us names and false and in holy truth, we are not hearing from a false Jesus. We don't have to defend ourselves, our Lord Jesus Christ shall reveal in POWER that He send us to her, pastor Kim and Kat Kerr. Everyone is welcome to examine what we teach, we do not spread error but holy living and obedience. The Lord Himself proofs that by the mighty vision He gives in support to augment His truth we convey. If we so loudly wrote and share with everyone publicly how the Lord rebuked us for wrong things that leads us to His truth does this not show our conviction for His truth, how could we ever live otherwise? Yes, I might not have gone to Hell but I believed there is a Hell before I ever heard testimonies from the Scriptures. My faith is in the Word of God. I write powerful articles every Monday teaching the Word of God, she is despising it and instead calling us false Christ.
Finally, when I wrote the Forgiveness article, I thought let me live what I preached, I text her and asked for forgiveness because I thought from the conversation below I was a bit harsh to her, after the same brother she says she got a word for rebuked me and said I was harsh to her. In truthfulness, I humbled myself and ask for forgiveness. It was for the conversation below and for nothing else. Everybody who reads the bible knows that God speaks in riddles and as you may have observed from the many visions the Lord gave us, He concealed the real meaning why... "It is for God's glory to reveal a matter" (Proverbs 25:2; Numbers 12:6-8).So then the Lord reveals His messages to us via visions which displays the Beauty of His Wisdom and profoundness. This is Scriptural in every sense. In the world we learn that a picture speaks a thousand words, but the Lord of TRUTH and Holiness portrays His TRUTH and message through these visions and leave a riddle for us to seek Him. Does Daniel, John, Ezekiel, Isaiah, Zechariah Hosea and all the prophets not receive visions that they did not understand unless the Lord provided the interpretation?
We declared and I say again, Charis see the form of the Lord and hear from Him every night and He appears to her just like the Scripture in Revelation 1:18. On the sash is written KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. I stand for TRUTH and not falsehood, of all the messages the Lord ever gave Charis nothing has failed to be truthful. I have studied the Scriptures on my own and academically for more than six years and nothing I came across no contradiction of the things the Lord revealed to Charis. She has never made up anything. We have asked the Lord for messages for many people across the World and NONE of them ever came back saying what the Lord revealed about them was false. We even secured a Word for Pastor Christine as well. She acknowledge that as truthful, by sending me a message saying she repent. We have not become her enemies by acknowledging the Lord first and write what we are send to do. This ministry is universal and the Lord is using this ministry and Charis to communicate His message to the BODY of CHRIST. take it or reject it, Charis is standing in the office of a prophet! And in Jesus name she never, never prophecy or predicted lies or falsehood. I never asked pastor Christine to add our link or place our testimonies on her website, she did that on her own. I expressed gratefulness to her, but using what she did for us as a weapon is hurtful and it shows she gave grudgingly. We only received help from her for our ministry work and not for ourselves. In conclusion, from our conversations below and vis text, Pastor Christine is not a person who like to receive correction. She is always right and never wrong. Please Judge for yourself based on all this and pray the Lord to help you discern if what we teach and our visions if they are lies, promoting sin and deception or even non-biblical. This is the way truth should be judged. The letter she send out recently in which she slandered us maliciously just as the vision the Lord gave Charis predicted comes from a bitter heart. She sounds very angry and abrasive. Even for this, as a family and ministry, we have forgiven her and we will continue to pray for her and pastor Kim. They are being rebuked by the Lord for false teachings and claiming they saw things which they did'nt. Brethren, please be careful of the yeast of pastor Christine she is not a truthful witness and an honest person, judge for yourself. I say the message we proclaim and post is leading and encouraging everyone to self bible study. We even say people follow Christ not us.
May the peace of God be multiplied to you all in Jesus name,
PS: If there is anything the Lord reveals concerning this matter and since it is in the public, we will not hasitate to share it with you. Only just be praying for us all, we love you!
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Christine U. Coleman <email@example.com>
Date: Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 10:21 AM
My brothers and sister Choo: The Lord bless you!
For the past two months, I started seeing the number 13 in unusual way. It started really catching my attention more and more as I would see 13, everyday, 3+ times a day for a period of two months at least. I would for example be praying and when I check the time it would be like 7:13, 13 new messages on my cell, 12:13am etc. I have prayed to Lord to take this number away but it is still there. Today I saw it 4 times and now I have no doubt The Lord is telling me something.
Also for the past two weeks there has been increase in warfare like we have never experienced as a church. The spirit of DECEPTION is rampant in this last second. My prayers are with the Bride of Christ to endure and overcome.
God bless you all.